desi3933
01-22 10:00 AM
Lets not assume we know all legal stuff.
Defining employer - employee relationship is different from abuse and we cannot relate these two.
I do agree that to challenge the law rightfully, one has to have credibility.
You are right that employer-employee relationship is different from abuse. However, they are related especially if employer takes legal route.
I wanted to stress thru my post that H1-B worker can not put legal fight for these memo as it has to come from employer. Only time will tell, if or when any employer takes that step.
One thing, I would like to add here is that memo are advisory in nature and they do not have force of law and apply only to USCIS officers, not to immigration judges.
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Not a legal advice.
Defining employer - employee relationship is different from abuse and we cannot relate these two.
I do agree that to challenge the law rightfully, one has to have credibility.
You are right that employer-employee relationship is different from abuse. However, they are related especially if employer takes legal route.
I wanted to stress thru my post that H1-B worker can not put legal fight for these memo as it has to come from employer. Only time will tell, if or when any employer takes that step.
One thing, I would like to add here is that memo are advisory in nature and they do not have force of law and apply only to USCIS officers, not to immigration judges.
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svermani
04-01 04:43 PM
I also got a soft LUD on my 485 application on 3/30/2009 and on the spouse' 485 as well. Will post if there are any updates....
leoindiano
09-17 01:14 PM
Why don't IV lobbysts take them to nicest Indian cuisine in DC? ;)
Coz IV lobbyists dont have money. Total contributions in last 3 months are less than 5k.
Coz IV lobbyists dont have money. Total contributions in last 3 months are less than 5k.
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gsc999
11-15 06:28 PM
People will find list of US companies supporting SKILL bill and also trash talk from many citizens. Hope you will enjoy it. Do read the comments, that is where the fun is.
http://www.steinreport.com/archives/009781.html
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Thanks for pointing out. I counted 16 posts correcting the error about H1-B not paying taxes.
http://www.steinreport.com/archives/009781.html
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Thanks for pointing out. I counted 16 posts correcting the error about H1-B not paying taxes.
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Bradman
11-05 12:27 PM
Very happy for you Bradman !! Enjoy :p
...but remember it can be pure coincidence that your letter to 1600 Pennslyvania made any difference. Moreso when the namecheck and the approval..all happened within 2 weeks of the letter !
Anyways no harm trying any and all legal ways !
You are right.. I got a call this Wednesday from the Presidents office of initiating an inquiry on my case and again a repeated call from them on Friday that FBI Name Check has been cleared. I forgot to mention this detail in my excitement.
Thanks,
Donald Bradman
...but remember it can be pure coincidence that your letter to 1600 Pennslyvania made any difference. Moreso when the namecheck and the approval..all happened within 2 weeks of the letter !
Anyways no harm trying any and all legal ways !
You are right.. I got a call this Wednesday from the Presidents office of initiating an inquiry on my case and again a repeated call from them on Friday that FBI Name Check has been cleared. I forgot to mention this detail in my excitement.
Thanks,
Donald Bradman
aspiration
06-13 10:34 AM
As of now there are more than 8000 views for this thread. If we just take that each of us might have visited this thread 50 times.. .That would still take us to 180 odd unique visitors...
and if you look the survey..JUST 90 Calls so far.. Why there is a disconnect here/??? because we postpone and don't do our part...
If efforts fails, it is only ourselves to blame.. Platform is set and try to atleast help by sparing 10 mins of your day... Take this matter to your heart and
JUST DO IT>>>>
and if you look the survey..JUST 90 Calls so far.. Why there is a disconnect here/??? because we postpone and don't do our part...
If efforts fails, it is only ourselves to blame.. Platform is set and try to atleast help by sparing 10 mins of your day... Take this matter to your heart and
JUST DO IT>>>>
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walking_dude
11-14 12:03 PM
Only issue is one of his crowd may mug me in a subway or lonely street, or puncture my tyres, or break my windshield, attack our children... and so on.
.....
We would be better off not wasting our time on him or rebutting his indirect accusations, he is playing to his crowd. We should play to ours.
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We would be better off not wasting our time on him or rebutting his indirect accusations, he is playing to his crowd. We should play to ours.
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gjoe
01-30 04:28 PM
I watched the whole debate, unfortunately ( as expected) they never touched on the question we voted on or the other most popular question about Katrina. There were other popular question too like NASA related stuff which never made it.
Anyways we all did a good job within a short time to bring our question to #2 in the most popular list.
We will try this in the future debates too.
Once again thanks to everyone who did there part in this.
Questions 3 & 10 at 2 34 PM EST.
Here is the Link (http://dyn.politico.com/debate/democrats/VoteForQuestion.cfm#). Once you get on the page, sort the questions by Most popular
Everybody please go the URL http://dyn.politico.com/debate/democrats/VoteForQuestion.cfm
and vote for question number 20 .The question number is changing please look for the text below and the title "Immigration" before you vote
The question is
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This question is NOT about Illegal immigration but Legal Immigration issues at the govt. level... What do you think of and plan to do about the broken naturalization process that is currently hurting nearly half million highly-skilled and taxpaying legal immigrants already working productively in the United States who find themselves trapped in a system that is taking years longer than intended. The greatest impact of the broken green card process is borne by the legal immigrants and their families. Some of the major grievances faced by the legal immigrants are that they are forced to be stuck with the same employer for years; their spouses not allowed to work, they have a very limited travel freedom and so on. With the current backlog in the system a highly skilled high-tech engineer could take up to 7-10 years to get a green card. Isn't that an unfair deal for a person who works so hard to fulfill his American dream? Again: This question is NOT about Illegal immigration but Legal Immigration issues at the govt. level...
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ALSO VOTE FOR THE SECOND QUESTION (also an immigration question text follows)
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Illegal immigration has been a topic of heated debate and has received much needed attention during this election. In the midst of all the hype and bickering about ILLEGAL immigration, there is a group of people, often forgotten and ignored, who are caught up in a bureaucratic mess and yet are patiently waiting on the path to LEGAL immigration. This is a group of high skilled workers, most of whom have advanced degrees in medicine, engineering and science from Universities in the US. These people have obeyed all laws, worked hard, paid taxes and waited their turn, many for a decade, because of a system that is hopelessly broken and inefficient. I am one of these people and I have been in the US legally for 10 years and still years away from getting a green card. As the President of the United States how do you intend to address the problems faced by future Americans already living and working LEGALLY in the United States? Please note, this question is NOT about ILLEGAL immigration but about LEGAL immigration.
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Let us try to get as many votes as possible from all the 25000 members . This is a good chance for all of us to get this issue out to the public. Please tell your friends and family who are not members on immigration voice, ask them to vote. This vote mayn't get us anything except a lame answer but atleast it will get us a big audience to hear our problem and also help us to differentiate ourselves from illegal immigration issues. FOLKS DO YOUR BEST THIS DOES NOT COST MONEY. THE POLL MAY CLOSE BY TOMORROW MORNING.
Anyways we all did a good job within a short time to bring our question to #2 in the most popular list.
We will try this in the future debates too.
Once again thanks to everyone who did there part in this.
Questions 3 & 10 at 2 34 PM EST.
Here is the Link (http://dyn.politico.com/debate/democrats/VoteForQuestion.cfm#). Once you get on the page, sort the questions by Most popular
Everybody please go the URL http://dyn.politico.com/debate/democrats/VoteForQuestion.cfm
and vote for question number 20 .The question number is changing please look for the text below and the title "Immigration" before you vote
The question is
---------------------------------
This question is NOT about Illegal immigration but Legal Immigration issues at the govt. level... What do you think of and plan to do about the broken naturalization process that is currently hurting nearly half million highly-skilled and taxpaying legal immigrants already working productively in the United States who find themselves trapped in a system that is taking years longer than intended. The greatest impact of the broken green card process is borne by the legal immigrants and their families. Some of the major grievances faced by the legal immigrants are that they are forced to be stuck with the same employer for years; their spouses not allowed to work, they have a very limited travel freedom and so on. With the current backlog in the system a highly skilled high-tech engineer could take up to 7-10 years to get a green card. Isn't that an unfair deal for a person who works so hard to fulfill his American dream? Again: This question is NOT about Illegal immigration but Legal Immigration issues at the govt. level...
--------------------------------------------------------
ALSO VOTE FOR THE SECOND QUESTION (also an immigration question text follows)
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Illegal immigration has been a topic of heated debate and has received much needed attention during this election. In the midst of all the hype and bickering about ILLEGAL immigration, there is a group of people, often forgotten and ignored, who are caught up in a bureaucratic mess and yet are patiently waiting on the path to LEGAL immigration. This is a group of high skilled workers, most of whom have advanced degrees in medicine, engineering and science from Universities in the US. These people have obeyed all laws, worked hard, paid taxes and waited their turn, many for a decade, because of a system that is hopelessly broken and inefficient. I am one of these people and I have been in the US legally for 10 years and still years away from getting a green card. As the President of the United States how do you intend to address the problems faced by future Americans already living and working LEGALLY in the United States? Please note, this question is NOT about ILLEGAL immigration but about LEGAL immigration.
---------------------------------------------------
Let us try to get as many votes as possible from all the 25000 members . This is a good chance for all of us to get this issue out to the public. Please tell your friends and family who are not members on immigration voice, ask them to vote. This vote mayn't get us anything except a lame answer but atleast it will get us a big audience to hear our problem and also help us to differentiate ourselves from illegal immigration issues. FOLKS DO YOUR BEST THIS DOES NOT COST MONEY. THE POLL MAY CLOSE BY TOMORROW MORNING.
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WaldenPond
03-13 11:03 AM
You are partially right.
One thing I know for sure - you know how to copy paste and repeat the same post again and again :)
ItIsNotFunny,
Please be considerate towards members spending time to fix issues that affect you and your family. At the time when english_august posted, these was some problem in the application. I know this because the message I posted just before english_august was also repeated 2-3 times. Kindly give others benefit of the doubt before cherry picking their faults.
You are already enjoying the benefit of filing 485/EAD/AP in July-07. Atleast be considerate towards people who contributed their time, energy and resources to - in lot of ways influence the outcome of July visa bulletin.
And if you or H1bslave et al don't see any value in IV, then why do you visit this website and why do expect updates?
One thing I know for sure - you know how to copy paste and repeat the same post again and again :)
ItIsNotFunny,
Please be considerate towards members spending time to fix issues that affect you and your family. At the time when english_august posted, these was some problem in the application. I know this because the message I posted just before english_august was also repeated 2-3 times. Kindly give others benefit of the doubt before cherry picking their faults.
You are already enjoying the benefit of filing 485/EAD/AP in July-07. Atleast be considerate towards people who contributed their time, energy and resources to - in lot of ways influence the outcome of July visa bulletin.
And if you or H1bslave et al don't see any value in IV, then why do you visit this website and why do expect updates?
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gc_chahiye
11-02 04:45 PM
Do we really believe there aren't enough Americans to handle IT work in America?
yes. I honestly do. Having been through multiple recruitment attempts, at three different companies, in the bay area of all places: there are simply not enough qualified/interested american citizens available.
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
I agree.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
good point. However unlike the kind of work being done in the middle-east, there are a ton of companies in the US founded or co-founded by immigrants. There is a reason this place is called the land of immigrants. Handing out GCs gives these people options to start companies and many many of them do. this creates jobs, creates more intellectual capital, all within the US. In 6 years if you make a cook in Dubai leave and go back to Kerala (just picking a typical example) he is not going to do anything to compete with Dubai. You make these H1-Bs who have spent 6 years here (working on various products, technologies, ramping up, understanding customers, relationships etc) go back, they are going to start companies in India. Now all the capital stays out there. The same 5 products that could have been built in the US and sold to lots of companies abroad, will now have to be bought by the US.
If there is any kind of immigration that I think the US does not gain much from, its the diversity lottery and to an extend the chain migration that comes from family based immigration. EB immigration is a BIG win for the US economy.
yes. I honestly do. Having been through multiple recruitment attempts, at three different companies, in the bay area of all places: there are simply not enough qualified/interested american citizens available.
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
I agree.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
good point. However unlike the kind of work being done in the middle-east, there are a ton of companies in the US founded or co-founded by immigrants. There is a reason this place is called the land of immigrants. Handing out GCs gives these people options to start companies and many many of them do. this creates jobs, creates more intellectual capital, all within the US. In 6 years if you make a cook in Dubai leave and go back to Kerala (just picking a typical example) he is not going to do anything to compete with Dubai. You make these H1-Bs who have spent 6 years here (working on various products, technologies, ramping up, understanding customers, relationships etc) go back, they are going to start companies in India. Now all the capital stays out there. The same 5 products that could have been built in the US and sold to lots of companies abroad, will now have to be bought by the US.
If there is any kind of immigration that I think the US does not gain much from, its the diversity lottery and to an extend the chain migration that comes from family based immigration. EB immigration is a BIG win for the US economy.
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anzerraja
07-19 05:10 PM
Zoom, thanks for the initiative. Just wanted to make sure if there are any legality issues behind core accessing the IV funds for administrative costs. Because once we donate it to IV funds(unless there is a provision for them to access that money as reimbursement administrative cost) it may not serve the intended purpose.
WE ARE WAITING FOR THE RESPONSE FROM CORE TEAM ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
Guys I am ready to pay my dues to core....If you want I can start a thread to track the payment only for the core members. Lemme know what do you think.
WE ARE WAITING FOR THE RESPONSE FROM CORE TEAM ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
Guys I am ready to pay my dues to core....If you want I can start a thread to track the payment only for the core members. Lemme know what do you think.
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marlon2006
06-09 11:14 AM
I think the idea is that we need to sell ourselves. I was the other day debating on www.cio.com and believe me, that was a tough exchange. Several US IT pros (mid management, engineering, etc) arguing that they are highly qualified and got laid off and cannot find a high paying job anymore. I had to sell myself and argue that our skills are needed, etc. I believe that we are still needed in this country and it is not all that easy to find "good" IT professionals. That's why we are here. However, I am very concious about the number of folks who Americans are willing to let in without hurting them.
"Demand" and "right" will work up to the point in which we don't irate Americans. America has been sympathetic to immigrants in good part thanks to the capacity that America has to accomodate us here. If an excessive number of immigrants get in and that alarm citizens, I can tell you this country will become as unsympathetic to immigrants as many European countries are.
LogicLife is doing a good thing by being so positive. Let's continue to sell our skills in a professional manner. Just be careful with the idea of "demanding" and "rights" though :)
So you guys are saying that because you are on a H1B you are working harder than others? Let me tell you that working hard does not guarantee your job. I have seen hard workers laid off left and right, be it US citizens, green card holders or H1Bs. In fact one of my GC friends said that it is a constant fear for him to be employed at all times, he was unemployed for 10 months after the dot com bust. That changed him completely, he said what will I do with my GC, can I feed my kids with a GC? I need a job. So it is everyone's perspective. I look at him and say at least you have a GC, he says at least you have a job. :)
I still think that GC is not a right. It is a privilege, as is a driving license. You have to pass the drivers test to get a license. Logiclife's message from centuries back about anyone being able to move to another country does not work in today's world. There were no visit visas needed to get to India or China for example in those years, but why is it a requirement to have a visa to visit India now? Things have changed.
BTW, I do think we should do what we can to improve the immigration process, but if nothing gets done its not the end of the world. We can "ask", "request" Congress to change laws. But surely you are not saying we "demand" for our rights to have a GC?
"Demand" and "right" will work up to the point in which we don't irate Americans. America has been sympathetic to immigrants in good part thanks to the capacity that America has to accomodate us here. If an excessive number of immigrants get in and that alarm citizens, I can tell you this country will become as unsympathetic to immigrants as many European countries are.
LogicLife is doing a good thing by being so positive. Let's continue to sell our skills in a professional manner. Just be careful with the idea of "demanding" and "rights" though :)
So you guys are saying that because you are on a H1B you are working harder than others? Let me tell you that working hard does not guarantee your job. I have seen hard workers laid off left and right, be it US citizens, green card holders or H1Bs. In fact one of my GC friends said that it is a constant fear for him to be employed at all times, he was unemployed for 10 months after the dot com bust. That changed him completely, he said what will I do with my GC, can I feed my kids with a GC? I need a job. So it is everyone's perspective. I look at him and say at least you have a GC, he says at least you have a job. :)
I still think that GC is not a right. It is a privilege, as is a driving license. You have to pass the drivers test to get a license. Logiclife's message from centuries back about anyone being able to move to another country does not work in today's world. There were no visit visas needed to get to India or China for example in those years, but why is it a requirement to have a visa to visit India now? Things have changed.
BTW, I do think we should do what we can to improve the immigration process, but if nothing gets done its not the end of the world. We can "ask", "request" Congress to change laws. But surely you are not saying we "demand" for our rights to have a GC?
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pam002
07-15 07:27 PM
I signed. Its shame on these guys airing shows on CNN and running for presidentship without knowing much info about H1B as USA has been issuing H1Bs for several years.
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oliTwist
01-15 01:55 PM
:) Vote up for "Legal Immigration" :)
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eb3_nepa
02-05 05:16 PM
Ok Logiclife, i did not intend to start a war or anything of the sort. I was just giving suggestions in light of the fact that inspite of IV working VERY hard, nothing is happening on the GC front. That is the ONLY reason I put up this post.
One more thing. You mentioned that a lot of people are not contributing, maybe the reason is that not everyone wants a GC that desperately. Some people are fine with working here temporarily and then going back after making some money. Besides some members who have contributed in the past may be wondering if it even makes sense to contribute again, being that there has been no real progress on the GC front since Dec 2005 (the birth of IV). Now do not get me wrong I KNOW how hard the IV team has worked and how many time we came SO SO SO close to getting our dreams realized in the Senate only to be crushed in the house again.
My point was, maybe it is time to face the facts. The government has changed but the basic attitude towards the "immigrant" is the same. This is because the average American, views immigrants as a threat. Now we can argue all we want on that statement, but in our hearts we know that the "AVERAGE American" would rather Not have immigrants come to the US (legal or illegal). In light of these events does it not make sense to ask for simpler goals? Goals like 485 filing or H4 Eads etc. Sure it makes us look weak in front of the anti-immigrants, but then are we here to solve our problems or to prove the anti-immigrants wrong?
Lastly this was NOT a threat nor was it intended to be a Threat that "take my advice or i will leave". Just a simple suggestion in light of things to come.
One more thing. You mentioned that a lot of people are not contributing, maybe the reason is that not everyone wants a GC that desperately. Some people are fine with working here temporarily and then going back after making some money. Besides some members who have contributed in the past may be wondering if it even makes sense to contribute again, being that there has been no real progress on the GC front since Dec 2005 (the birth of IV). Now do not get me wrong I KNOW how hard the IV team has worked and how many time we came SO SO SO close to getting our dreams realized in the Senate only to be crushed in the house again.
My point was, maybe it is time to face the facts. The government has changed but the basic attitude towards the "immigrant" is the same. This is because the average American, views immigrants as a threat. Now we can argue all we want on that statement, but in our hearts we know that the "AVERAGE American" would rather Not have immigrants come to the US (legal or illegal). In light of these events does it not make sense to ask for simpler goals? Goals like 485 filing or H4 Eads etc. Sure it makes us look weak in front of the anti-immigrants, but then are we here to solve our problems or to prove the anti-immigrants wrong?
Lastly this was NOT a threat nor was it intended to be a Threat that "take my advice or i will leave". Just a simple suggestion in light of things to come.
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ken
08-12 07:26 PM
I think some of our members put the votes in wrong place.
For Eg : for "Before Nov 01 2002" right now the number of votes are 24 click on 24 you will see which user voted for "Before Nov 01 2002 now check for couple of users for their Labour Approval Date some have labour approval dates of 2006 and 2007
For Eg : for "Before Nov 01 2002" right now the number of votes are 24 click on 24 you will see which user voted for "Before Nov 01 2002 now check for couple of users for their Labour Approval Date some have labour approval dates of 2006 and 2007
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sathyaraj
11-09 04:30 PM
Driving License should not be a problem as these days the rules have been relaxed dramatically. In NY they give license for 5 yrs irrespective of ur I-94 date. Also it depends on how many yrs you have left with H1B.
In some states they are even planning to give for illegal immigrants. As legal immigrants we can renew Driving license. But it is a valid point for unmarried, as they have to keep it active until they bring their spouse to USA.
Correct. It is a valid concern for unmarried :)
DMV in different states treats immigrants differently. No uniform policy. Interestingly I was discussing this with a friend of mine and he took his EAD/AP to the DMV and was expecting to get the DL valid for the period of EAD, but the officer insisted he get the I485 receipt and gave the validity like every body else because he is in AOS(I guess 5 years). That was a pleasant surprise for him.
In some states they are even planning to give for illegal immigrants. As legal immigrants we can renew Driving license. But it is a valid point for unmarried, as they have to keep it active until they bring their spouse to USA.
Correct. It is a valid concern for unmarried :)
DMV in different states treats immigrants differently. No uniform policy. Interestingly I was discussing this with a friend of mine and he took his EAD/AP to the DMV and was expecting to get the DL valid for the period of EAD, but the officer insisted he get the I485 receipt and gave the validity like every body else because he is in AOS(I guess 5 years). That was a pleasant surprise for him.
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01-31 09:50 AM
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small2006
08-14 11:05 AM
It took me around 4 years. EB2 India, started as a scientist later physician and endless headaches ...... but its over now. Got my card yesterday. Its an amazing stress relief and confidence booster.
I could have tried EB1 too but wasnt sure how it would turn out hence stuck to EB2.
PD Dec 2005, EB2, RD for 485 Sept 2007. Welcome notice August 5 2008.
For some odd reason I got a red on this forum. I dont know who did that and why. But I dont care.....
For those who are waiting: Keep pushing and thinking of new ways of making this work. if you are EB3 try to become EB2 and even EB1. In the end all that matters is getting the card.
As regards this forum. I never contributed but found this to a good source of information.
bye bye:)
My PD is also Dec 2005 (EB2) and RD for 485 is Sep 2007. When did you finish your FP? I am just trying to understand the similarities b/w our cases although it may be a pointless exercise.
Thanks.
I could have tried EB1 too but wasnt sure how it would turn out hence stuck to EB2.
PD Dec 2005, EB2, RD for 485 Sept 2007. Welcome notice August 5 2008.
For some odd reason I got a red on this forum. I dont know who did that and why. But I dont care.....
For those who are waiting: Keep pushing and thinking of new ways of making this work. if you are EB3 try to become EB2 and even EB1. In the end all that matters is getting the card.
As regards this forum. I never contributed but found this to a good source of information.
bye bye:)
My PD is also Dec 2005 (EB2) and RD for 485 is Sep 2007. When did you finish your FP? I am just trying to understand the similarities b/w our cases although it may be a pointless exercise.
Thanks.
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